11:16:24 From Pastor Susan Graceson to Everyone : Making Sense of the Bible Buckets of Scripture (p. 273) 1. Passages of scripture (the vast majority) that reflect the timeless will of God for human beings. For example, “Love your neighbor as you love yourself.” 2. Passages that reflect God’s will in a particular time, but not for all time. For example, much of the ritual law of the Old Testament. 3. Passages that reflect the culture and historical circumstances in which they were written but never reflected God’s timeless will. For example, passages related to slavery. What do you think about the souls of the LGBTQ people you have known? What do you think about the nature of God toward the LGBTQ people you have known? How do you want CCPC to respond to LGBTQ person? Letter to Dr. Laura Schlesinger: http://www.stpaulsepiscopalbakersfield.org/uploads/6/6/9/0/6690860/a_letter_to_dr_laura.pdf Making Sense of the Bible Buckets of Scripture (p. 273) 1. Passages of scripture (the vast majority) that reflect the timeless will of God for human 11:51:22 From Mary B to Everyone : The purity culture is based on 1Thes. 4:3-8 11:52:55 From Marty to Sara Huey(Direct Message) : Hi - could you please post the titles of the books you might recommend? ;-) 11:53:50 From Mary B to Everyone : Nice girls don’t…… 11:54:05 From Sara Huey to Everyone : https://www.amazon.com/Survived-Kissed-Dating-Goodbye/dp/B07KRDGD5R?ref_=d6k_applink_bb_dls 11:54:20 From Sara Huey to Everyone : Great documentary about the modern purity movement 11:54:21 From Marty to Everyone : Thanks, Sara... 11:54:39 From Sara Huey to Everyone : And I'd highly recommend PURE by Linda Kay Klein! 11:56:27 From Olivia MacMillan to Everyone : The church I went to in High School, the youth group had a HUGE scandal! We had like 60 kids. Well... one... duh, duh, duh.... had sex. And it was like a bomb went off of purity promises and rings and shunning of the bad girl socially, while being friendly and praying for them both publically... 11:59:21 From Mary B to Everyone : I’m thinking the term Gay started around the early 80s? 12:00:02 From Sara Huey to Everyone : It's actually much earlier! It was in the Oxford Dictionary as slang in the '50s, but we all know the dictionary can take quite a while to catch up! 12:00:27 From Mary B to Everyone : Oxford…that means England :) 12:00:37 From Mary B to Everyone : Probably in the states a little later 12:01:37 From Sara Huey to Everyone : Too true!! 12:03:08 From Kristen Ross to Everyone : Olivia, I'm sorry you went through that in your youth group. 12:03:46 From Mary B to Everyone : Yeah, Olivia, pray for them while shunning them. Wow. :( 12:04:07 From Sara Huey to Everyone : Disturbing. How sad. 12:05:36 From Steve Donoian to Everyone : I am thinking about Jimmy Carter who said he had lust in his heart for other woman but didn't act om them because of his faith. He got criticized for that. 12:06:06 From Sara Huey to Everyone : Also to add onto what Dick said, lots of folks feel that the balance of their non-100% sexuality shifts frequently! 12:11:35 From Ann Fleming to Everyone : I said that same thing to a gay friend and she said, “so you think I’m sinning in who I love?” 12:11:46 From Ann Fleming to Everyone : So I try not to refer to it as a sin 12:12:50 From Olivia MacMillan to Everyone : I've had my goddaughter coming over in a few minutes. Have to split! Thanks so much! 12:13:01 From Mary B to Everyone : Love you Olivia! 12:13:09 From Marty to Everyone : Take care, Olivia! 12:13:11 From Sara Huey to Everyone : Hugs!! Have fun! 12:14:10 From Kristen Ross to Everyone : Bye Olivia. Have fun. 12:14:58 From Sara Huey to Everyone : I'd highly recommend the YouTube series State of Grace (by Refinery29, hosted by Grace Semler-Baldridge) on the bait-and-switch strain of churches! 12:19:41 From Sara Huey to Everyone : I so appreciate every one of you. These discussions are so life-giving 😊 12:20:39 From Steve Donoian to Everyone : And we appreciate you Sara. 12:21:01 From Marty to Everyone : Absolutely, Steve... 12:21:39 From Sara Huey to Everyone : @Kris, in many Native American cultures, two-spirit folks (non-binary, trans, or even agender to us) are viewed as closer to the Divine because of that! 12:22:14 From Roxanne Johnson, PIA National to Everyone : I do think the phrase "this is how that person identifies" is not necessarily kind. People are people and we shouldn't focus on the word "identify" - people are who they are and the way God created them. 12:22:28 From Mary B to Everyone : Made in God’s image, male and female He created them. — a new way of interpreting that :) 12:23:22 From Sara Huey to Everyone : Roxanne, very similar with pronouns! They aren't preferred pronouns, they're just your pronouns!